This company was founded by two old friends and partners who envisioned a successful business. Even from its conception, trust and respect, linked with years of experience, were the fundamental blocks. One of the owners was a key player for 8 years in another big and succesful company, here in Orange county. Now we are independent and teaming up with people who surely respect our values, who most certainly are carefully selected team players.
Extremely Professional and Caring Team:The Moving Packing Group company has got one of the best customer service you could ever wish, especially when you are moving and want everything to go smooth. Elena helped me and she was very helpful.The team arrived on time. Since they comprised an amazing team I need to mention their name: Leo, Francisco, Sergio and Caesar. They disassembled, packed and moved my entire 2-bed condo professionally. I had no broken equipment nor torn apart sofas when they put everything back, assembled and got everything working to their functional position. I had to move twice due to the gap in between my moves. They were all nice enough to help me out. They cared enough to send the same team after 3 days to ensure the proper assembly of frames, bed, drawers, office desk, etc.I highly recommend this company for moving, especially in Orange County. Hopefully I will not move again, but if I did, they will be my go-to company again!
Samuel Isaiah
22:06 09 Jul 24
I found these Guys right on time and without any appointment they quickly moved me to my mom after I received an Eviction Notice ! OMG ! I am so thankful that heavenly father took take of me that day ! The Team were so friendly and polite like I haven't experienced before !!!. Thank you Guys for such great Work !
TMsokol andrew
19:31 13 Nov 23
I highly recommend this company. The experience from the front office to the movers was wonderful.
Nicolle Boone
01:46 21 Sep 22
iWired avd
21:09 26 Jun 22
great guys life savers! Complete in every way and polite. Can't wait to recomend Joe,. Leo, Louis and Wallet.We highly recommend . Can't say enough!
Juliet Griffith
20:02 08 Jan 22
Mike Zamorano
19:32 17 Apr 21
These guys were great! Showed up on time and were friendly and helpful throughout. If recommend them to anyone planning to move in the area.
Eric Clifford
19:40 16 Apr 21
Me and my roommate got 2 movers and they were super fast and efficient. They saved us our moving from a first floor to a second floor! They were on time and early and finished over half an hour early! No damage to my furniture or my apartment. Thanks! Would use these guys again!
Steph “Bearillo”
17:35 30 Mar 21
Lorenzo and Matt showed up 10 minutes early and finished over half an hour early! Fast, efficient, and handled my furniture with care. Would 100% recommend. They are the best moving company I have used and in Orange County by far.
예솔HeartandSeoul
17:34 30 Mar 21
They we're on time, very professional and good on packing and unpacking, with assembly and dissemble. I would recommend
Stephen Garcia
19:26 27 Mar 21
I was in a bind for time needing to move some large heavy items and misc items and this company came through big time. I called at least 7 other companies and no one had any movers available today, but when I called moving packing group I was provide with exactly what I needed. Ellana took my call and was a sweetheart. I told her I needed help today for a move from Anaheim to garden grove and she took my information and made me feel confident that my job was going to be handled. Within minutes she confirmed that they would be sending Matt and his crew in the next 2 hours to help me with my move. Matt and his crew kept me informed 30 mins before they were going to arrive and were on time, professional, extremely helpful and courteous. They got the job done and exceeded my expectations. They were efficient and a pleasant crew of gentlemen. Matt explained the process and was very helpful. I have nothing but great things to say and would recommend this company to anyone. Thanks guys.
Andrea Franchino
02:42 04 Mar 21
Punctual and proffesional very curtisous had lots of wrapping and boxes they got in there and worked right away . Matt was very good at making sure we git a good deal with the time allotted with contract very highly recommended
Darrell Dowell
02:36 04 Mar 21
I am very happy with this company. Super service, on time, very friendly guys. So next time I need their services, I will call them right away.
Roberto Lozano
00:34 20 Feb 21
Matt and Adam did a great 👍job. Thank you for the service.
Maria Houston
19:14 23 Jan 21
Matt, Lore, and Anthony were very careful about our items. Love how they wrap our tables, beds, and tv to protect from damage. Diligent and friendly too.
Maurice Dimson
01:03 15 Nov 20
Great packing job! Courteous, professional, great job!
Edgar Young
17:59 24 Oct 20
I am surprised at how many good reviews this company has. To start I will say that Elena was good about scheduling and answering phone calls but that is...
C C.
16:49 24 May 20
Moving packing services were great. The dispatcher Elena was very nice and professional. She followed up right away. Adam and Joseph were professional and...
Erica S.
17:51 15 May 20
These guys were wonderful from the moment they showed up.We really didn't know how we were gonna get everything done and they just got busy powering...
James R.
14:22 18 Apr 20
Erika Galliver
20:41 27 Feb 20
We had the movers pick up at our storage unit from Long Beach to Garden Grove. Worked quickly. Loaded the truck and were able to make a second stop before efficiently unloading us at our home.They were quick, careful with our belongings, and very nice.Nothing broken and the price was the best we found after multiple calls. They were flexible with scheduling and were great when I had to reschedule due to a renovation delay at our new place.
Maksat Satlykov
21:59 01 Feb 20
Rcvd call prior to arrivle. FriendlyAnd courtesy.
james
16:29 18 Jan 20
This company was very appreciative of our business which is unusual these days. Very prompt and professional. I would highly recommend this company (Moving Packing Group, Inc). Vic and Victor wrapped each piece of furniture so everything was protected. Quite a few of my pieces were heavy and yet they maneuvered downstairs and back up at the final destination with ease. Very professional guys. A+
pat scheufler
20:34 15 Jan 20
Great services, We used this company for a local move from Anaheim to Garden Grove. The staff here is extremely friendly. and they got the job done within the fastest time possible. I Would highly recommended Moving Packing Group to all of friends and family.
Quan Tran
02:00 14 Jan 20
The crew from Moving Packing Group were fantastic from start to finish. They were organized and on top of each step during the planning process. Day of the move went so smooth and easy. Will definitely use their services again in the future.
Marius I. Astalus
00:08 07 Jan 20
The rate quoted to us was more than reasonable compared to the other companies that we contacted, and the movers were efficient, respectful, and very friendly!They moved all our big items from our apartment to the new house, with 3 movers and 1 large truck.They also helped us pack some remaining items and even though we hadn't expected to need packing materials, I'm so glad they had plenty available with them in the truck!The customer service at the main office was also great, and very understanding when we had a potential delay last-minute (which thankfully didn't end up happening).I was very happy with the service and will be recommending Moving Packing Group to anyone I know who needs moving services.
Denis Buzin
21:40 26 Dec 19
Fast, efficient , on time and of course professional!¿They're quote was accurate and not high or low. They got to my place on time. They didn't waste any time even taking rests. They also ensure everything was wrapped and secure. Assembled everything they took apart too. If you move in Orange County, you need to use these guys!
Willy Cardona
06:45 02 Dec 19
Very fair price. Everything up front without hidden fees and a proper estimate that was right on the money for how much we ended up moving.
Super professional from start to finish and not pushy at all (some moving company's are so pushy.....and LOL THE PRICES & PRICE QUOTES! seriously some shady movers).
Patient phone service, Carmen who was my point of contact was very responsive and answered all my emails quickly.
It was a pleasure to interact with her.
On the day of the move, three guys showed up and on time. They were very professional, efficient and polite They came with blankets and wrap and tool in case they need to disassemble something.
Once the truck was loaded they were on their way. Once they arrived to the final destination they were once again quick and very professional to unload their truck. They kept asking where I wanted the boxes to be put etc..
Was able to book last minute.
Overall, I will HIGHLY recommend them. If you are looking for true professionals don't go anywhere else. Trust me you will not be disappointed.
The workers most definitely earned their tip!!!!
Respectful guys.Friendly. Required minimal direction and stayed on task the entire time. (Again, there are some shady movers) They really went above and beyond for us, took care of us. Helped a lot with the stress of moving.
100% recommended
Super professional from start to finish and not pushy at all (some moving company's are so pushy.....and LOL THE PRICES & PRICE QUOTES! seriously some shady movers).
Patient phone service, Carmen who was my point of contact was very responsive and answered all my emails quickly.
It was a pleasure to interact with her.
On the day of the move, three guys showed up and on time. They were very professional, efficient and polite They came with blankets and wrap and tool in case they need to disassemble something.
Once the truck was loaded they were on their way. Once they arrived to the final destination they were once again quick and very professional to unload their truck. They kept asking where I wanted the boxes to be put etc..
Was able to book last minute.
Overall, I will HIGHLY recommend them. If you are looking for true professionals don't go anywhere else. Trust me you will not be disappointed.
The workers most definitely earned their tip!!!!
Respectful guys.Friendly. Required minimal direction and stayed on task the entire time. (Again, there are some shady movers) They really went above and beyond for us, took care of us. Helped a lot with the stress of moving.
100% recommended
Junior Michedude
01:00 21 Nov 19
I had the pleasure to get serviced by moving packaging group, inc. they arrived on time, provided excellent service and overall it was a great experience. I highly recommend them. Note: I moved from Irvine to DTLA.
Riad Rahmo
19:25 29 Sep 19
Excellent experience fast and professional, didn’t break any furniture. Moving was from OC to LA. Polite and responsible team. Thank you very much 🙂
D D
19:24 29 Sep 19
They moved a 2 bedroom and a whole living room set within 3 hrs, they were very fast paced hard workers nothing was damaged, would definitely recommend, FIVE STARS MOVERS
Jacqueline Tamayo
21:03 06 Sep 19
Moving Packing was so helpful and gave us an awesome service! They came earlier than the quoted time of arrival. They were very professional and did everything so swiftly. They moved all of our appliances (dryer, refrigerator, washer) along with our furniture in 3 hours! I highly recommend you book them ASAP!
Ruth Genota-Supan
20:59 27 Jul 19
The two guys Matt and Lorenzo were great they finished quickly while still taking care of the huge china set we had nothing was damaged even though they had to move it up two sets of stairs they were good communicators making sure they put the furniture where we needed it not to mention they were really friendly
mercury pepper
04:39 23 May 19
Great service. On time and extremely friendly. They new what they were doing.
John Olmedo
17:56 17 May 19
The two gentleman that came to do the moving were very kind and professional .Showed up exactly on time and finished even a little earlier than expected. Nothing was damaged, everything was great, and they communicate with you to make sure everything goes in the right spot. The absolutely best part though was how they dealt with our extremely rude building manager. The building manager was being extremely rude to them and they were still professional and kind towards him and me. I have so much respect for how they handled the situation. Not to mention the great price. Great company will be happy to use again.
Jello 948
21:51 26 Feb 19
I first chose this company because their communication during the initial inquiry was fast, efficient, and they answered all my questions very clearly. During moving day they called a half an hour before arriving and were right on time. The truck was clean and we had more than enough room in the truck. Most of all the movers had a great personality and were both very efficient. Lastly, the price they charged was the most affordable as well. Can't go wrong with these guys!
Josh Cotter
07:10 20 Feb 19
Matt and lorenzo they were great they were early did a great job and I highly recommend them to anybody great guys if anybody needs movers they are the guys
tracey moretti
21:01 07 Feb 19
Had a great experience with our movers. I was flying in to deal with an office move and they were super helpful and made it very easy. Thank you Vayo, Josh, Ivan and Leo for being such great helpers! Special thanks to Vayo for going above and beyond to fix our wobly table 🙂
Jessica Post
16:08 30 Oct 18
The team from Orange County Moving Center were absolutely wonderful. They quickly answered every question I had and were incredibly accommodating. They were on time, careful with my belongings and super speedy! The team used wrap about fragile items and provided all the materials I needed to make the move. I will definitely use them in the future and would recommend to everyone!
Ellie Lynch
15:36 28 Jul 18
Moving Packing Services was really helpful.I'm really happy. They when out of their way to help me they are really knowledgeable great attitudes friendly staff with the best prices. I would highly recommended them to anyone and everyone. Thanks Lucas and Victor from Moving Packing Services.
Petru Cusnir
07:31 25 Jul 18
If i could give this company 0 stars i would. I hired moving packing co to move me from my upstairs condo to a downstairs in same complex. I just had my condo remodeled and had my hard wood floors restored. This co scratched my new floors and took 6 hours to move me. Last time i moved with same amount of stuff 3 hours. Company refuses to send anyone out to look at my floors. They said take pics and send to them.. Or we can come out in 2 weeks. Guess I'm getting estimate to fix and take to court. Do not use this company... Also they don't like it if u have animals. Animal hair makes their movers sick so they need to go home.
lori hogue
23:10 13 Jul 18
I hired two moving professionals, Matt and Lorenzo, through the Moving Packing Company. They were exceptionally experts on moving, working very hard, polite and very careful. Very very satisfied. I highly recommend them to all of my friends and family when they need to have a moving service.
Jin Sik Kim
09:03 29 Jun 18
I hired two moving professionals, Matt and Lorenzo, through the Moving Packing Company. They were exceptionally experts on moving, working very hard, polite and very careful. Very very satisfied. I highly recommend them to all of my friends and family when they need to have a moving service.
JinSik Kim
08:59 29 Jun 18
I had a great experience!! I will never move myself things personally ever again!! I will always use this company to move and refer them to al my family and friends.
Qiana Miller
17:50 22 Jun 18
They couldn’t have been more efficient, friendlier or more professional!! I highly recommend their services!!!
Danielle Villegas
02:03 22 May 18
Showed up on time, polite and very careful. I highly recommend them for your move. I used them in a fountain valley to Westminster move. Jay and Matt were awesome. Can’t say enough about their service.
Valmore Valiquette
20:20 12 May 18
Shandell Maxwell
17:50 14 Apr 18
Pure Movers is fantastic!! Vayo and Matt moved all of the belongings from San Juan Capistrano to San Clemente. They were on time, fast and careful!! Up steep stairs and no scratches on anything and they even put my bookshelves together!! This was my second time using this company and I will definitely call them again. Thanks Pure Movers!!
MeganMahoney RidingAcademy
18:56 11 Apr 18
I recently hired this company to help me move a bedroom set into another house and they made moving such a breeze. My furniture was wrapped and handled carefully into the truck and unloaded and pieced back together so quickly! I was moved in and set up within 2 hours (I moved less than 10 miles in between houses in the same city). Christiano & Rich were so helpful, made sure everything was where I wanted & left no mess behind. Also, they are one of the cheapest pricing I found around the area, about $20 less an hour than most of the moving companies around LBC.Thanks Guys! I will definitely hire them again when I move. ✌🏼
sharon lumitap
23:26 07 Apr 18
Hiring professionals movers was the best decision! Moving Packing Services was fantastic to work with from start to finish. They were thorough with the quote and the end price was exactly what I thought it would be. The guys arrived on time and were very organized. They took great care of my stuff and everything arrived to my new home in perfect condition. They were pleasant, professional, and made the move SO easy for me. I would absolutely recommend them and will definitely use them again for my next move!
Alex Babiuc
02:09 03 Apr 18
I highly recommend Moving Packing Company. Finaly this is done!Me and my husband finally got into our new place , and we are loving it!Last year, these guys helped us move from a two-story house to a three-bedroom apartment, which is no easy feat. Ivan was very responsive and great at accommodating our last-minute request to have help with packing up our kitchen.We were lucky to have the professionals, (two of them)Matt and Alex as our crew. Two-thirds of our move items were donations to Goodwill, and the crew was super attentive and made sure they understood what boxes were going where. We were very impressed with the Matt that packed up our kitchen, he was incredibly fast and didn't break a thing. We know that's a hard thing to do, so we were fully prepared to have some broken items; you can imagine how impressed we were that were none.We also had an issue where our new apartment complex didn't have door stoppers and our couch didn't fit in our elevator. The crew was good at problem-solving both those issues fast and without complaint, even if it meant hauling the coach up the stairs to the very top floor and then some.Overall, as people who are pretty picky about other people touching their stuff, we are very happy with the help we received from the crew. At one point, I remember asking if I should be helping out at all, at which Matt responded "you just need to sit back and relax." That is the feeling we walked away with after all was said and done. Thanks, guys!
Ovidiu Adrian Simion (Ady Simion)
17:27 16 Mar 18
Showed up on time and were extremely careful with my belongings. They treated my old and new apartments with care. This was a local move from Costa Mesa to Santa Ana. Would definitely recommend them and use them in the future.
Gregory Magistro
20:42 18 Feb 18
The most amazing moving team in LA!! Love this guys!
Dani Jorja
07:56 12 Feb 18
Very difficult to find a reliable and affordable moving service but I was very pleased with Moving Packing Movers during my move from Orange County to Los Angeles . I was looking for a while for a moving company near me .All of my things were in great condition.
Sofia Enescu
03:52 12 Feb 18
This is my first Google review.Just had to write one up for these guys !All the people at Moving Packing Company are absolutely wonderful! I hired them for an out of state move, as well as, an across town move from Orange County to Los Angeles.Both experiences.... the owner and their employees were courteous, professional, on time, great communicators, helpful, patient, hard working and overall super deserving of the 5 stars I gave them above.Happy to refer friends & family to Moving Packing Group.Will most certainly be using their services again should/when I need them 🙂
Sofia Enescu
23:54 11 Feb 18
So easy to work with!Our office was moving locations, and we heard great things about Moving Packing service. According to our supervisor, who booked the move, the estimating went well, and booking the move went smooth. The two gentleman who hauled our oh so heavy office desks, boxes, and filing cabinets were very nice. I believe their names were Jason and Chris. They brought their truck and carefully started moving our items out. May I add they are very strong... because these desks are not lightly built! Gee... I started breaking a sweat watching them lift. Wait..... yeah, I said it. LOL. They were on time at the first location, and then quickly and gently moved our office furniture into our new building. The guys were helpful in every way with a smile on their face, as tired as they were, I'm sure! They were also very interactive and friendly with us. I will highly recommend Moving Packing Company to any friends moving homes or their offices. They do wonderful work and have great attitudes. Thank you, Moving Packing Company!
Mihai Enescu (mihu)
23:33 11 Feb 18
Great service! I've never used a moving company before so I was really nervous about my move. However, all the people I worked with from customer service to the movers themselves were polite and professional. My entire move was a little under 3 hours and that's from Long Beach to Santa Ana! I'm so grateful I was able to find this company. It was totally stress free.
Melissa Ramirez
16:52 27 Jan 18
From the first call, these guys were great! Mike walked me through the process, we inventoried the house room by room, over the phone, and he was spot on. We booked two trucks and four guys and they were the best. Matt, Nick, Raul, and George were professional, courteous, thorough and FAST! They moved everything in under 8 hours. That included disassembling, loading, driving, unloading and then reassembling furniture. The guys only took a short lunch break.
We boxed the majority of our household items beforehand to make it quick. The guys wrapped the furniture in blankets and plastic sheeting and took great care as they packed the two box trucks. When they unloaded they put all the furniture and boxes in the rooms as we directed and reassembled the furniture. I was impressed - total professional movers ! We're still unboxing and I haven't found one item damaged or broken. We moved from Anaheim Hills to Irvine.
I highly recommend Moving Packing Company and would definitely use them again! Great job, guys!!
We boxed the majority of our household items beforehand to make it quick. The guys wrapped the furniture in blankets and plastic sheeting and took great care as they packed the two box trucks. When they unloaded they put all the furniture and boxes in the rooms as we directed and reassembled the furniture. I was impressed - total professional movers ! We're still unboxing and I haven't found one item damaged or broken. We moved from Anaheim Hills to Irvine.
I highly recommend Moving Packing Company and would definitely use them again! Great job, guys!!
Mori Jing
17:20 10 Jan 18
After receiving several quites from a bunch of moving companies I chose Moving Packing Group based on the google reviews and the woman on the phone who helped me. I am so glad I chose them!These guys were hard workers, they were able to get "most" of a 2600sq ft home in one truck. They took great care in packing and unpacking everything at the new location. Very professional and great to communicate with. Always checking to see if we needed anything else done.They arrived at 8:30 and were ready to go. They were very nice and professional. They did the job in a reasonable amount of time. There was no damage to anything. The price was very affordable. This move was a breeze thanks to them. I would definitely recommend them.
Oana Gaidan
05:16 02 Jan 18
I was more then impressed. The four guys worked their butts off the entire move.Hiring movers was a great idea, but hiring Moving Packing Company was an even better idea. We had to move out of our old place on short notice and they worked with us to find a good date/time on such little time. We really appreciated that because all the other companies we had talked to said they were all booked or did not book less than two weeks out.On the day of the move, our guys came on time. And they moved all our stuff out efficiently. They even took our old bed and bar stools so either them or the other guys in the warehouse can use it. Thankful for this as we did not have to deal with getting rid of it! They moved our stuff into our new home, being very careful not to scratch the new hardwood floors. They even paused at the front step with each table and chair so that we can place felt floor protectors under the legs before carrying it in. Excellent service! We highly recommend hiring this company for all your local moving services.
DAN MOCANU
05:59 01 Jan 18
From the first call, these guys were great! Mike walked me through the process, we inventoried the house room by room, over the phone, and he was spot on. We booked two trucks and four guys and they were the best. Matt, Nick, Raul, and George were professional, courteous, thorough and FAST! They moved everything in under 8 hours. That included disassembling, loading, driving, unloading and then reassembling furniture. The guys only took a short lunch break.We boxed the majority of our household items beforehand to make it quick. The guys wrapped the furniture in blankets and plastic sheeting and took great care as they packed the two box trucks. When they unloaded they put all the furniture and boxes in the rooms as we directed and reassembled the furniture. I was impressed - total professionals! We're still unboxing and I haven't found one item damaged or broken.I highly recommend Moving Packing Group and would definitely use them again! Great job, guys!!
Oleg Socolov
05:54 28 Dec 17
Narges Milani
03:35 21 Dec 17
These two guys were very professional and polite would definitely use then in the future
Steven Jimenez
17:01 17 Dec 17
Veronica Ursachi
22:49 07 Dec 17
I called MPG for a same day move and they came through. From the initial phone call to pick up and delivery, their service was exceptional. The movers were very professional, courteous and personable. Job well done to Matt and his partner. Thank you so very much.
Donna Marmolejo
03:44 07 Dec 17
Highly recommended! Great service, easy to work with. And very affordable. Thank you
Ady Simion
04:48 02 Nov 17
Real professionals; fast, efficient and knowledgeable. Those guys know what moving a house means and they mean business. Great experience, I recommend this company to anyone who want their stuff from point A to point B in no time.
Marius Victor Iliescu
03:37 02 Nov 17
Loved the experience. ���
I recommend this company to anyone who wants their stuff moved fast and efficient.
I recommend this company to anyone who wants their stuff moved fast and efficient.
Carmen Mihaela Iliescu
03:37 02 Nov 17
Reservation process was really easy, as long as you plan in advance you should have no trouble selecting your date of choice. I called about 10 days before I had to move out. Nick was courteous over the phone and very responsive once we were in contact via email. I sent them a photo of my place he replied with "We can take care of this for you!" Perfect. Matt and Andre gave me a call the day of and contacted me one hour prior to arrival and informed me that they will be on their way. Once they arrived they came to my studio to take a look at my place. What was nice was the gesture and manner they came in with. They were truly there to get the job done and they weren't there to take advantage of a desperate situation. They were able to dissemble my Ikea furniture with no problem and put it back together! I moved from a large studio to a one bedroom and total time was 4 hours and 45 minutes. I had a lot of.... stuff.... I've moved once every year and came across a lot of movers and so happy with the outcome and experience. I would highly recommend. Thank you Moving Packing Group! I will be sure to contact you again if I decide to move again!
Krissie Fern
05:07 26 Oct 17
AMAZING moving experience!!! Moving sucks no matter what, but these guys made it as easy as it could be. Professional, polite, clean, gentle, efficient, honest...I can't say enough. They were always available and following up with me. They treated all my stuff with such care and were gentle with everything. All furniture got fully wrapped in blankets, and everything was saran-wrapped. The vibe was very positive. Leo, the foreman, guided his team with patience and efficiency. I never felt stressed or any negativity. I live in Orange County where it is hard to find good vendors and honest people where you don't feel ripped off. As a men living alone with no family to help, for no moment did I feel unsafe or taken advantage of. I even felt safe enough to leave them alone three times when I had to run errands, and one time I left them with my purse with money, and never worried that anything would be missing. They were simply amazing. I am beyond grateful and happy of how everything worked out. I was traumatized last time I moved. They are a growing company, I hope they keep up the personalized service they offered me. I recommend them and will use them again in the future. I still have to unpack, but from the big items, nothing was broken or scratch. They are expensive, but you get what you paid for and it was totally worth every penny.
Lucas Quezada
18:59 16 Oct 17
The movers are going to start the time when they arrive at your moving place and will (disassemble if needed) and then quilt pad and shrink wrap all your furniture.
The movers are going to load all your stuff in the truck and drive the truck to your new location.
Once the truck is at your new location the movers are going to unload the truck, (reassemble if needed) and stop the time once they are ready to return to our facility.
We do not have any other fees like: truck fee, gas fee, service fee. There are no hidden fees!
